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Ron Paul's Iowa dreams becoming more realil

Seeded on Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:35 AM EST
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"There is something rather amazing about the Internet," he told his Ames supporters, about two-thirds of whom appeared to be under age 25. "I've been used to delivering a message very similar to what I'm delivering tonight for many, many years and not getting a whole lot of responses. And all of a sudden, there's a whole generation of people now very excited about hearing about the message of freedom."
'Practically miraculous'
"I think it is practically miraculous what has happened in the last 12 months," Paul told reporters in Ames. "Not me and not what I've done. But it's miraculous to find out that there have been so many who had already been informed and were just waiting for someone to ignite these issues."
On foreign policy, Paul told crowds in Ames and Des Moines:
"Let's give up on nation-building and policing the world."
The Constitution mandates a policy of non-intervention. "That means: mind our own business."
He'd pull troops from Iraq and everywhere else. "Don't you think 55 years is long enough to be in Korea?"
He also denounced the idea of bombing Iran to prevent the potential of the Tehran regime acquiring a nuclear weapon, which he sees as no threat to the United States or Israel.
"Israel would be better off" and the Israelis "could take care of themselves" if the United States ended its alliance with Israel, he said during a weekend meeting with several Christian pastors from across Iowa.
No Ron Paul speech is complete without a denunciation of the Federal Reserve Board which he blames for the devaluation of the dollar.
He forecasts ever greater Chinese reluctance to buy Treasury bonds.
"All empires fail because of a financial crisis," he told the Christian pastors.
If elected, Paul would try to radically shrink the federal government.
"If we don't want the government running our lives and we get to run our lives, then we have to assume total responsibility for what we do," he told the Ames crowd. "We have to suffer the consequences. But the great thing about this philosophy is that if you believe in life, liberty, and the right to pursue your happiness, you also believe you get to keep all of the fruits of your labor."
Hence Paul would scrap the income tax.
"We don't have to put anybody out in the streets," he said. "We can just let young people —whoever wants to take care of themselves — get out of the (Social Security and Medicare) system," he said.
Americans' love of the welfare state
Since most Americans have become accustomed to the welfare state, isn't ending it the toughest idea to sell to audiences?
"It is," he acknowledged in an interview before his Ames speech. "It's really tough — unless the young people listen to what I'm talking about, because the young people know they're getting ripped off."
Asked point blank whether he would propose to abolish Medicare, Paul replied, "That's not my goal. It might be my theoretical goal and my philosophic goal."
He predicts Medicare will "self-destruct."
He foresees a transition in which current beneficiaries are paid for, but "young people get out."
The only place where Paul got a less than friendly reception this past weekend in Iowa was the Iowa Republican Party's Reagan Dinner Saturday night.
The members of the GOP establishment sat on their hands through most of Paul's address. Not until he'd spoken for nine minutes did he get any applause, a tepid round of clapping when he called for abolishing the income tax.
Meanwhile, Paul is drawing a mixture of curiosity and respect from Democrats.
Doug Bishop, the treasurer of Jasper County in central Iowa and a staunch supporter of Democrat John Edwards for president, said, "There are a lot of people (in Iowa) looking at Ron Paul because he knows he's not going to win, so he's not scared to tell the truth."
Bishop added, "He's throwing it right out there: get us out of Iraq, take care of America first, let's take care of home before worrying about spending billions and billions of dollars overseas. And that message is resonating throughout the Midwest."
Praise from the left
Rep. Lynn Woolsey, D-Calif., the left-of-center antiwar leader from Marin County, said, "Ron Paul appeals to people who are hungry for politicians who will speak their minds, not parsing, weighing, measuring. He knows what he believes, he's not afraid to say it."
She added, "People are loving it."
Joe Trippi, a 25-year veteran of Iowa caucus politics who served as Howard Dean's campaign manager in 2003 and who's now a top aide to Edwards, said, "From what I see, Ron Paul is doing much better than his better-known opponents think he is doing. He is at that stage of the Dean campaign when all the other campaigns are laughing at him and have no idea of how strong he really is."
Trippi added, "This kind of candidacy can be surprisingly strong in a caucus state particularly if it stays just below the radar."

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naughtynumbernine

He could take Iowa. The Republican voters in Iowa aren't usually the brainwashed RWNJ types.

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Reply#1 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:38 AM EST
BD Styers

Doug Bishop, the treasurer of Jasper County in central Iowa and a staunch supporter of Democrat John Edwards for president, said, "There are a lot of people (in Iowa) looking at Ron Paul because he knows he's not going to win, so he's not scared to tell the truth."

Is this guy for real? Some people have trouble letting go, I suppose...

A grand jury indictedEdwards this summer on six counts, including conspiracy, issuing false statements, and violating campaign contribution laws. If I were in that much trouble, I would probably keep my mouth shut. But Edwards’ legal team is using a different, uh, legal strategy.

And that strategy is: “Waaaaaaah, what about John Ensign? Why isn’t he in trouble?”

    Reply#2 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:54 AM EST
    naughtynumbernine

    Is John Edwards the guy who ran with Kerry in '04? I liked his statement though.

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    #2.1 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:20 AM EST
    BD Styers

    yeah he is from NC, so I have more news contact with him...Waaaaaah

    This guy, Doug Bishop, must not be from around here. Plus, he says Ron Paul knows he's not going to win? What is going on in Iowa?

      #2.2 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:46 AM EST
      naughtynumbernine

      People are waking up in Iowa.

        #2.3 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:52 AM EST
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